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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Iisa's office hours for the month of August. It is our pleasure to have you here, and we hope you will find a session informative.
My name is Christina Niggera. I am a science and technology policy fellow at the National Science Foundation.
I'm in the size directorate, and I will be your moderator for this service hour, and just couple of reminders we're going to have a presentation, and if you have questions, please use the tab at the bottom of your Zoom screen, to answer your questions.
And we will take some of your questions via writing, or we will answer them. Live! And the other reminder is that this meeting is recorded.
So please be aware of that as you, as you ask questions, or as you have other pertinent information, and with that I'm going to go ahead and ask our panelists to introduce themselves.
Let me start with Tom.
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Tom Martin. I'm a program director in size in the Information and Intelligence Systems Division, and I'm the size representative to the Grfp program.
Thank you, Tom Wendy.
Wendy Nelson. I'm the deputy director in information and intelligence systems, and we're very grateful to have our Drfp colleagues here.
Thank you, John. On.
Good afternoon. Hi! I'm Shanghai. I'm the program lead for the Graduate Research Fellowship program.
Grfp.
Thank you. And Sammy.
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Samia Manning. You can call me Sammy. I am one of the program specialists with the Grfp program, and I currently am working with the outreach program for Grfp. And it is nice to be speaking with you all this afternoon.
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And she'll give us the insight on Grrp.
Thank you, Christina, and again welcome everyone, and thank you for participating in the Grfp information hour. I hope that you get a lot of great information from this presentation.
Today we will be answering questions at the end of the presentations. If you have, furthermore, questions, please feel free to reach out to some of the email or one of the email addresses that will be presented to you at the end of this presentation.
So I will now begin the Grfp Presentation Slide, which Grfp comes from the division of graduate education.
And we are the graduate research fellowship program. grfp@nsfgrfp.org.
Now, the Graduate Research Fellowship program. It is the director for stem education, currently known as Edu, and is division of graduate education at dge.
And, as you can see, you can reach us@www.nsf, Gov. Slash grfp, or at info at Nsf.
Grfp.org.
To give you a little bit of information about the grid program. Today I will let you know which you will need as far as the Grfp.
Information, the description, the eligibility, the ineligible degree programs, the ineligible areas of study and proposed research, the application, package and review criteria.
Our first slide lets you know that about gr Fp, we have funded over 70,000 Grfps awarded.
We have an annual stipend of 37,000 yearly, with the cause of educational allowance.
At 16 0, and some of the eligible major fields of study. But grfp is chemistry, life, sciences, psychology, social sciences, materials, research, engineering, mathematical sciences, stem education and learning. Research.
We have a lot to offer, and we ask that if you could see on the left, if you would please always submit early.
It is open to individuals who are pursuing research based masters and doctoral degrees in eligible fields of study.
And again, that information can be found at Nsf. Grfp. Org.
Our next slide will give you a little bit more information about the graduate research fellowship program. Description.
5 year wars for grp are 159,000 53,000 each year for 3 years over 5 year, period, 37,000 is the stipend plus the 16,000, in education, allowance, and pay intuition.
Payment covers all tuition and mandatory fees, no cost to students. Other Nsf.
Opportunities are at the intern, which is a non academic internship program. Face individuals with disability, support career life balances initiative with family leave.
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Is that a problem for everyone, or is it?
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I'm getting a lot of them. I can see them, so I'm sorry for the person. I can't see them, but we will be posting them afterwards, so stay tuned in. There's a ton of really good information, so.
Okay. Thank you. So there are 4 types, one being a fellowship which is awarded to individuals paid through the attendant graduate institution.
Flexible, the choice of project, the adviser and graduate program, the unrestricted. No service requirement after completion, and the portable can be used at any accredited nonprofit Us.
Institution of higher education, with campus in the Us. For research based masters and doctoral degrees in 2,010, through 2,022, 2,000 2,100 fellowships yearly, in 2,022, we had 12,600 applications with the 18% success rate in 2,000, and 21 we had 12,600 applications, with the 17% success rate, in 2,000, and 20 we had 12
1,000 out 800 applications with the 16% success rate. And in 2,019, we had 12,200 applications with a 16% success rate.
The overall goal of the graduate research fellowship program is to recruit individuals into science, technology, engineering, and mathematics stem fields, to select recognized and financially support individuals who have demonstrated the potential to be high achieving scientists and engineers early in their careers it's a broaden participation of the full spectrum of diverse talents in Stem.
The graduate research fellowship program in the eligibilities to apply.
One you have to be a Us. Citizen nationals and a permanent resident. You have to have a early career in undergrad and graduate students pursuing research based masters and or doctoral degrees.
No professional degrees, science, technology, engineering, mathematics, stem or stem education, full-time enrollment in graduate degree programs at accredited nonprofit. Us.
Institutions of higher education. There are no foreign institutions allowed. There are several levels to the graduate research fellowship program, Level One, a seniors, bachelor's degree, no graduate study level 2 first year graduate studies, joint bachelor's or masters completed in 3 years Level 3 s year graduate students, no more than one Academic year, completed in first graduate degree program, a joint
Bs Ms holders only can apply as first year doctoral students progressed to Phd. Directly at the completing joint Bs Ms degree notice that at level 2 and level 3, you only can apply once level 4 returning graduate studies is a 2 year.
Interruption in graduate study. No doctorates or academic year in graduate program or not enroll in a graduate program at application deadline.
Also professional degree programs, eg. Mba, Md. Jd. Dvm.
Or Dds joint-size professional degrees programs, eg. Md. Phd. Or Jd.
Phd, community, global or public health. Mph, counseling social work. Msw. Education except the stem education, humanities except history of science.
Please see the detailed eligibility requirements in the solicitation for Grfp.
Now research with directly health related goals, itology diagnosed diagnose. I'm sorry, or treatment of disease or disorder, animal models of disease for drug development testing, disease prevention, public community global health clinical research, patient oriented research and behave in epidemical and behavioral studies the outcome research health services standard of care health policy research directly leading to clinical trials advocacy for specific policy
outcomes a pledge research on planet pathology, maximizing agricultural production and impacts on food safety.
And these are some of the areas of study and proposed research.
Now, this is the most important part for me. With Grfp, and it's making sure that you have a complete application package and the number one thing I love to always tell people when applying whatever you do.
Please don't wait to the last minute to apply as soon as the solicitation comes out. Make sure that you apply.
Apply apply, because when the deadline comes we shut down on time. So please again, do not wait to the last minute and the Gisp application, the complete application package requires your personal information.
Education, work, research, experience, your proposed Major field of study, your honors, awards, and publications, your personal, relevant background in future. To go. Statement 3.
Page, a. Pdf, your graduate research statement, which is a 2 page. Pdf, your transcripts.
Pdfs are mandatory, and letters of reference may provide up to 5 names of reference letteraritis mandatory to have 3 reference writer names, and again, please make sure that you follow all of the application processes procedures to make sure that you complete your application completely and in a professional manner of time do not wait to the last minute.
The Gif. P. Application specifics the deadlines are 5 PM.
Local time of applicant mailing address, and when I stress 5 pm. 4, 59.60 s, we are waiting and the system will shut down so as of October sixteenth, 2,023 is the deadline for life sciences.
October the seventeenth, 2,023, computer and information science and engineering materials, research.
Let me make sure. Yes, materials, research, psychology, social sciences, and stem education and learning. The deadline for engineering will be October the nineteenth, 2,023.
And Chemistry. Geo. Sciences, Mathematical science, Physics, and astronomy. Deadline will be October the twentieth, 2,023.
Please read the Grfp solicitation for detailed application instructions, and requirements to request accessibility.
Accommodations. Please contact your info at Ns. Grsp. Org, at least 4 weeks before the application deadline.
This is to give you a little example of how the Grfp application timeline works, in late October.
The applications are due shortly after application is due. The reference letters are due, but level one only apply to grad school.
That, again, is for level one only apply to grad school. Then comes the fellowship offers, which comes out in March through April.
The acceptance of a war in declaration of tenure or reserve is done in early May, and your fellowship year begins early September.
That is, this is an example of how the gr Fp application timeline works.
Now I'm gonna give you a little information on the 2 statements that Grfp requires, one being the personal, relevant background and goes into being.
Your research statement.
Personal, relevant background and goes. Tell your story, demonstrate your potential for stem research experiences, professional and personal, that contributed to your motivation and preparation for pursuing a stem career career aspirations and future goals how have you experienced shaped your goals research industrial professional experience one what was the project and what was your role so how did you become involved and what was it
done? 3. Why was this project worth doing? What have you learned?
Any advanced courses to move my screen coursework. And what was your contribution to the project, and how did it fit into the whole?
Your research statement. Please describe your proposed research plan, communicate your research idea and approach. Explain your research plan in methods.
What do you expect to learn? How will you know if the project is successful? And what would you do next? Keep in mind, avoid jargon, communicate clearly for NASA, not specialists, and make your contributions clear?
Clearly address Nsf. Merit review criteria, intellectual merit, and brought in impacts under separate headings.
Your reference. Letters and transcripts, reference letters mandatory for application. Review. 3 reference writer names in the application, and 2 reference letters must be received by Nsf.
Strongly recommended, is to have a list up to 5 names of reference writers, and 3 reference letters received by list the rank up to 5 reference letter writers.
Top 3, will be seen by the reviewers. Transcripts that are required. All applicants must submit bachelor's Degree Transcript transcripts required for all degree programs.
Transcripts required for all graduate degree enrollment, official or unofficial transcripts, accepted official transcripts recommended for second year graduate students.
Now I will explain the Grsp Review. Correct the intellectual merit. How important is the proposed activity to advancing knowledge within its own field or across different fields.
The broader impacts. How well does the proposed activity benefit society, or advanced desire desired social outcomes, and this is the comprehensive review for the National Science Board of Merit Review criteria for Grfp.
Review considerations demonstrate it potential for significant achievement in stem, comprehensive, holistic approach to review balance, consideration to all components of the application.
Educational and research record leadership, outreach service activity, plans for the future, individual competencies, experiences, and other attributes.
Potential to advanced knowledge, evidence of potential inability is to demonstrate it. Intellectual ability graze awards curricula, publications, presentations, and etc.
Plan and conduct, research work. As a member of a team as well as independently interpret and communication research.
Take initiative, solve problems, persist, display the potential of your approach to your major field of study and your research plan to advance knowledge, evidence of intellectual merit can be found in all parts of the application, personal statement, research, plan letters, experiences, awards achievements and transcripts.
Broader impacts, potential impact of the individual and or the research on society. Why, it's important.
Benefits may include, but are not limited to increasing participation of the full spectrum of reverse talents in stem, engaging in mentoring improving stem education in schools, increasing public scientific literacy, increased public engagement with stem conducting community outreach science, clubs, radio TV newspapers, blogs, increasing collaboration, between academia, industry, and others, evidence, of broader impacts, could be in all parts, of
the application from your personal statements to your research plans, from the letters, your experiences, your awards, and your achievements.
Thank you for listening to the Grfp presentation. I hope that this presentation was helpful to someone.
I hope that you gain a lot of knowledge about the Grfp program, and most definitely, I hope that you are will apply.
Please apply. And again, the graduate research fellowship program, the program contacts info@nsfgrfp.org applicants.
At Info at Nsf, GI. Fp. Org the Grsp. Reference writers in Sf. G. Rfp.
Dot, org, slash reference writers, gr Fp. Reviewers in Sf. GR fp.org slash reviewers, and again the phone numbers to contact someone in the Gifp office is 8 6 6 nsf, G rfp, (866) 673-4737 that is a toll, free Us and Canada number our international number is (202) 331-3542, again, my name
is Sam. I hope this information helps someone. I have my wonderful lead and my super colleague, Miss John, who is available to answer any of your questions.
And again, apply. Apply, apply, apply. Don't tell yourself. No, let us tell you.
No, thank you.
Yes, and let me reiterate Sam's point that we at Grfp. So I'm a little closer to computer science probably, than you might think.
I have a degree in neuroscience. So you know, there's some. Anyway. I've dealt with a wet where we used to call the hardware the where the software, anyway.
So we want you to apply. Grfp has Fomo. We are afraid that we're going to miss people.
We want outstanding eligible candidates to apply, especially in the We have high priority areas.
AI as a high priority area. Computationally intensive research isn't a high priority er quantum information. Science.
So please look, make sure you're eligible, but do apply so there's a lot of questions in here that I am going to cover.
First of all, let me say a very, very important question. Money. Here's the question, how does the $16,000?
It's not a sty pen. So $16,000 is the cost of education allowance which is paid to the institution where you are.
The institution accepts it in in view of all tuition and mandatory fees, so a fellow should not be paying any tuition or mandatory fees.
The stipend is $37,000, and the institution gets the money, and they disperse it to you.
So you get it as a on a monthly basis. It's prorated. So this other question is about, can a post bachelor's degree? So you don't have a Master's degree? You don't have a Phd.
Degree research apply for the fellowship? Absolutely. Yes, we. And actually, if you've had no graduate training and you have a bachelor's degree or your undergraduate graduate degree training, you can apply every year until you either get a fellowship and you go to grad school or you enroll in grad school once you enroll in grad school you can only apply once and there's actually another
program that Nsf offers. Cs grads for US. That is also targeted toward bachelor's degree recipients.
And my colleagues have discussed that, and that's a little bit more. There's a little bit more mentoring that goes on in the beginning to help you apply for that program.
When I say, when you say full time, okay, what do we mean by full time? Graduate study? That means what your academic institution considers. Okay?
So we we you are enrolled as a graduate student, your institution considers you a full time student in a degree program.
That is what we take. Nsf isn't deciding, you know. What's a great degree. It's what the academic institution dec decides.
So this is a no more than one academic year completed. What does that mean in a graduate degree program?
So that means, if you are in the first graduate degree program you graduated and you enrolled in a Phd program in computer science.
And the Us. Not for profit, institution, and in the year, the first year you will not have completed one year, because it's in your first year, and the deadlines are in October.
You haven't even finished this semester in the second year you will have finished one academic year.
Whatever the definition of your that your institution has for an academic year. If you're in a quarter system, and they say it's 4 quarters.
That's one academic year for you. One if you're a semester system that covers the whole year, you know, fall, spring, summer.
That's one academic year. If you have more than that, then you cannot apply, because you will no longer be eligible.
You will have one more you will have more than one academic year. And there was a question that I saw about transcripts for second year. Students.
And this is the reason we suggest that you get a an official transcript that shows when you started your graduate status, because, whatever your institution says, that's it.
We? Just that's it. Your institution has the final word on whether you're a graduate student or not.
So if you were admitted to the Phd program and start your first year and fall of 2,023, you could apply as a level 2.
Yes, as long as you don't have any other graduate study in a degree program. So I think the most important thing.
And I usually say this as a disclaimer in the beginning is, Please, Sam is very thorough.
She's very clear. But something man happened. I must have been a glitch. It was me my ISP would have, you know, you know, thrust me at some point you wouldn't have been able to understand.
So please go to the Nsf jrp.org website. The solicitation is out there. It is a very detailed document about what's eligible.
What's not eligible and please read it because and if you have questions, there is a like the little eligibility. Quiz a decision tree.
Are you in this status, and it will tell you. Maybe you'll do all that, and then, if you have a question, contact, the team at our Operations center there@infoatnsfrp.org, or the or the phone numbers that you saw because they're the team that's tasked with answering questions from applicants and if you send anybody and you know anybody else an
email, we'll just forward it to them because that's their job. We like them to do their job.
Oh! So our second year, Phd. Students who start this semester in late August 2022, eligible for this year's Grfp.
Application. Yes, because you won't have completed more than one academic year if you started, however, say in June or May, and your transcript shows that you completed an additional semester before then you will not be eligible.
So please check your transcript. Check the eligibility criteria to make sure that you're eligible.
Okay, if you don't have a Master's degree, and instead of gone directly into the Phd.
Program from? That's fine. You're still a first year graduate student, Mr. Graduate student, with no more than one academic year.
Okay. Okay. So there's a question. If you've completed 2 years of a master's professional degree program, does it count as years of graduate study and therefore prevents me from applying.
So all enrollment and in a graduate degree program counts. So in this case the answer is, yes, it would be, unless you're not enrolled and you're returning.
I cannot involve that that would count. So people who have more than one year so you've completed a Master's degree.
Maybe you've been working for a little while. If you're 2 years past that earning that Master's degree, then you could apply as long as you're not at all. I know it's very complicated.
This is why please go read the detailed eligibility, criteria, does do that. Go through the the decision tree eligibility, quiz and contact the operations center.
If you have detailed questions because I'm not gonna be able to answer all of those today. So okay, I think I can answer this question and they will be available.
And a professional. Once again, a lot of things about joint Bs masters degrees, whether you can apply.
Okay, let me answer the question about the joint vs. Masters. Yes, you can apply while you're in a joint bachelor's Master's degree, but because this is the joint Bachelor's Master's Degree.
You're considered a graduate student, because at the end of your program you're gonna come out with a Master's degree.
So you could apply only once. You can apply either during the Bsns. Or you can wait until if you got directly to a Phd program, then you can apply in the Phd program.
So, there's a good question, what is tenure and reserve? So tenure is what we call people who are getting a statistics and reserve are those 2 years.
Remember, I said, there are 3 years that you get funding and out of a 5 year degree program. Most Phd programs take 5 years.
Most, so you'll have a couple of years where there will be an Nsf. Grfp.
Funding, and then you will have to get other funding. So many students. Either they can get they can get a ta. They get another.
A departmental fellowship. They can get an Ra. On their advisors. Grant.
Some people are on training grants or private. That's also possible. So there was a question also about the 3 to 5 years.
So each, of this 3. So it's 3 years out of 5 each of those years you get a $53,000 allotment, 16,000, which goes to the institution, they say.
Thank you. This is covers, all of your tuition and mandatory fees. I'm $37,000 a stipend which they sent to, you know, and I am.
They'll drop it in, I assume, on a monthly basis to your bank account those 3 years you can decide.
Okay, do I? Wanna take it this year? Maybe next year I go on something else. The year.
Maybe I wanna be a ta, or maybe I wanna go into something. Somebody else's grand. So that's how you manage it.
It's just kind of helps you to manage the money that you get.
So there's a very so there's this, there's a question about recommendation letters. Can you explain what you mean when you say that it is strongly recommended to list 5 letter writers?
Does that mean? We list writers that are not expected to submit a letter? No, we say we strongly suggest, recommend that you get put at least 5 people.
And first of all, ask them, Hi! I'm applying for a grf. Would you mind writing a reference letter for me?
Because what they don't want is to get an email. Hello! You have been nominated by, you know, a student to write a letter, and they don't. No, that is coming.
So please ask first, and then you rank them in the order that you want to have that be read.
Only the top. 3 rank letters will go as part of the application package. I would strongly suggest, if you are a current graduate student, to have your thesis advisor, whoever your faculty primary advisor is be one of those people, the reason we asked for 5 is obviously sometimes for as a backup things.
Happen. You know, they're people are okay, they think, oh, I'm going to submit this letter tomorrow, because the deadline isn't until 50'clock, and I'll be okay.
And then, while they're driving home, whatever they get into an accident, they break their leg. They go to a hospital. Stuff happens.
There are a lot of people, each of the, as I said earlier, we get 13,000 applications. Each of those people are essential are asking at least 3 people.
Maybe more. So. This is the single largest cohort of people that we engage with on a one time basis.
So we're talking like 40 to 50,000 people, and in a population of 40 to 50,000 people, stuff happens.
There's some place that flight gets delayed, whatever. So it's just for you to make sure that you know you had backup.
So I answer the question about official transcripts slides. Yes. Can we get access to the slide? Once again?
Yes, you can get access to the slide. Please go to nsfdrp.org. Also, because there's a lot of resources there.
But and again I'm sorry, but you have to be the solicitation, you're all going to, or you want to be graduate students or you are graduate students.
There's nothing you can do to avoid reading reams and reams of text. Okay, sorry. So this was, let's see, I am ineligible.
Yeah, okay, can we include? Yes. So I have there are questions in there about applications. The format, that's all.
In the solicitation, and, as I said, you know the solicitation that won't change the language.
It's they're all in black and white, but you might not hear something. I might misstate something.
I might talk really, really fast, and you don't hear about. I'm saying which is quite common, because I to talk very fast.
Also. Please go. Read the application requirements and follow them. There are templates@nsfjrp.org please use the templates if you don't use the templates.
Sometimes, and even in some of the cases when people use the templates that they're using an old, you know, they got an old version of Microsoft word, or whatever, or the Pdf.
Check it first, try it, check it, see if it'll work, you know. You can see if it'll upload and it looks okay. You can try submitting.
You can withdraw before the deadline, see if the format is okay, because if you wait until the last minute, when we do, we get people who think it's gonna be okay and that it.
And something happens, and it's not, and there's nothing we can do because it's closed. There are no, we don't make any exceptions. We can't make any exceptions.
The thing closes, and that's it. So check it out. Remember, this is almost a hundred $60,000 that you are asking for the Federal Government to give you you know, for your graduate.
Study. Take the time because you could get it, and you have a lot more flexibility to, you know, to pursue research that that you may want.
So can't say no, there's. Is there an opportunity for one online counseling to answer questions that qualifications?
Please read again, once again, please read, do the test, and then, if you still have questions, then you can contact info@nsfgip.org.
But we do get a lot of applications. So it's probably helpful for you to do it earlier.
They're open now. The application module is open. Now. You could try putting that up.
Is this format work? Does it not work? Follow the format and the template? Exactly, and so that there's not any technical glitches?
Unfortunately at Nsf, we do have technical glitches. So a question about is the Grp Spec.
On taxable you should look into that. You're you're not working for us. You're not working for the institution.
It's.
For maybe this might become as a surprise to people who aren't in graduate school. But some is not as semester off for many graduates.
Since you are working. That's when you have time to do research and do it. So. Yes, I.
And it will depend, of course, on your on your institution. But the payment we expect it's going to be made paid in 12 monthly increments over the years, and the intent of this stipend is so that you will have full time to devote to your graduate study and your research and not have to you know get a second job go and be an Uber driver a
bouncer a grocery dagger, so that you're trying to, you know. Make money we want you to be able to focus on research because we really want we're looking for people who have potential to make an impact make a contribution.
You might be the one person, one person who can solve this problem. And I'm just going to take a team. C.
Anecdote right here. I knew a very famous computer scientist said once he was the president of the National Academy of Engineering.
Bill Wolf. He said he had a student who came to him with a question about a promise that oh, no, that's impossible.
I am people. I tried to do this before it did. It was impossible, I said. She went away a couple of 3 months later she came back, and she had solved this problem, so, and he wasn't expecting it.
So we're looking for people with creativity, you know. Flexibility, insight, that spark.
Somebody who is going to be able to look at a problem that well, maybe we could do it this way or others so, and the fellowship, because it isn't restricted to what you propose to do.
Gives you the flexibility to be able to do that. And there's no, you know, payback requirement either.
So , so let's see, there's there's a lot of very good questions in here.
Can I apply with an interdisciplinary topic, such as art and computer science or music and computer science?
Computer science has to be the primary it has to be a degree in an eligible field. Please, if you're trying to, you know, doing something else.
Maybe I'm all in favor of art and music, but computer science will be the eligible feel.
And so please go look at the fields, fields of study.
Okay. So once again, I think there was another question about the 3 years of funding. Please go look at the solicitation.
Oh! This is a very interesting question. I'm just starting my Phd research and the details of my research haven't been fully fleshed up.
Yes, that's quite common. How detailed does the research goal statement need to be? So let me point out that the of the 2 statements, the personal statement is 3 pages.
The reviewers want to know who you are as a person, because we tell them they are taking. They are assessing the potential and looking at the entire person.
A whole person. The research plan is to help them understand how you think, are you, you know. Are you a creative thinker, or is it? Does?
It is what you're proposing, you know, soundly based, are you up on things in your field?
And so it helps if you.
If you can do the best that you can to make that clear to the reviewers the best, your best presentation of yourself and your the way your thought and your capabilities and your education and your accomplishments, so they can understand who they're selecting.
Do you need to have a mentor or pi? Now you don't need to have a mentor or pi, and then other fields.
Maybe it will, of course, depend on institution, but there are fields where that's it's a very common for students to go into a grad students to go into a rotation lab rotations. They do chemistry.
And bio, it's very common, so you don't have a a faculty advisor, and this is not a pi, and you won't be the Pr. But it will help.
If they could at least understand why you would be a great candidate for a fellow to be a fellow.
Another question.
Successful. Okay, there's this is a question that comes up a lot. Can you speak to successful applicants who have not had much?
If any previous research experience. So this comes up a lot, especially for undergraduates, and we are strongly encouraging undergraduates and bachelors to be holders to apply, because actually, in the original one legislation of this program which goes back to 1950 we are looking they're looking to recruit people and into Stem into science looking for potential and graduate
students are technically already recruited into St. Because they've selected their undergraduate programs.
So we do encourage undergraduates and bachelor's degrees. So I think it's helpful if you haven't had any much previous experience.
But at least you can ideally consult with an academic advisor. If you've had, and to have present.
What an idea! But the an idea for a project! It would be helpful if you consult with an academic advisor, I think, because one we don't.
We don't know the applicants or what they're doing specifically. And so it's better to to have somebody look at it, maybe, who might have advise other students who have may have, you know, faculty often have advise a lot of students, and they have a lot of suggestions that could be helpful so and if the we also ask whether your institution has like offers you
know, application, writing, workshops, training. If they don't. A lot of universities do, and a lot of universities, some departments require all their fristic graduate students to write fellowship applications.
It helps cause. You're, you know, understanding how research, how to pitch research and how it gets funded.
So if they don't offer it, I always say, Hey, go to your team, ask them to support by a seminar or a workshop, if even if it's just something informal that you can get together, and I don't know they can give you money, for pizza or something organize something because sometimes reading other people's applications.
Helps you to see. Well, okay, that's clear. This isn't clear. So maybe from my application, I should make this more clear.
Okay, so let's see. Oh, goodness, there's a lot of questions, is there anything you would like to weigh in on Tom or Wendy?
Am I? There's a there's a very, very. There's a lot of very detailed questions in here.
Oh, this is a very important question. If you have not been accepted to a graduate program, but applied to one, can, or should I apply to the Nsa.
To the Jeff. Yes, please apply also when you're applying to graduate programs, apply to more than one fees, apply to more than one.
It might be your dream program, but maybe that year there isn't room for you and this fellowship can't be deferred.
We don't hold it, you get it, and then you have to start in that fall at that in a graduate degree program there's no pushing. No. Can I come back?
No, there's no, no, you have, that's the way the requirement is. You.
If you apply your offered one, you accept, and you have to start and fall.
So okay, let's see, am I missing anything?
Just a quick!
The year seem to be confusing people. Second year, Phd. Student.
So, oh, okay, so this, the question is essentially a first year or a second year, of whatever graduate degree program that is, it could be a master's degree program.
Yes, Drfp. Does support master's degrees. So if you're in the first of a Master's degree program, yes, if you're in the second year.
But and it's a a different. It's not directly attached to a Phd.
Program, or you want to get to a different institution, you can still apply. But if you get the fellowship you can take it to another institution.
But you have to start in that fall. That's the requirement for all applicants for all fellows.
You get an offer, you accept the offer. You have to start your graduate study in the fall.
So once again. Sorry if I've been to see this is why Sam is better. She's just calm, and she's very clear.
Okay. But read the requirements, please, read the requirements we want. We want great applications and computer science and engineering.
You want them so there's a lot of very detail. I cannot answer questions about your specific situation.
So once again, please go. Read the detailed eligibility criteria. Try the eligibility decision tree, and then if you have questions, then you can contact and fill@nsfgip.org.
So!
We think it's important to realize that if you go to the Grfp website, it is really an amazing place.
And lots of these questions. Here they have a decision tree on there. So please go and look. Put your information in, and I think you'll get the information you want.
They really worked hard to make this clear.
So there's a question in here about whether you can apply. If you're an undergraduate at a Chinese university.
So all Federal fellowships by regulation are restricted to us citizens, permanent residents, and us nationals.
Those are people who are born in territories such as you know, Guam, American Samoa, you must be a Us.
Citizen or permanent resident. You can't be in A. J. One visa, or you're, you know, in the process, at the time of the deadline you must be in one of those statuses.
And it's again Federal regulation. I always remind everybody, remember, Nsf is not a private foundation. We're not a friendly Neighborhood foundation.
We're a Federal Government agency, and the Executive branch, and we are constrained by Federal laws and regulations which we must follow.
We don't have the discretion or the flexibility to make exceptions. So.
No, if I were oh, okay, that's a question. If I were awarded a Jrap, he doesn't prevent me from getting a or an no, there are 2 years when you don't.
If in a 5 year and a reserve year you're not getting any money from Nsf. You can take a ta ship or an issue.
Then you should also, of course, check with your institution, because, regardless of whether you get a fellowship or not, you remain first and foremost a graduate student enrolled at your institution and you're subject to all of the requirements of the degree. Program.
So you're a student at Xyz University first, and you're being funded by Nsf.
Jrp. To pursue your graduate studies.
There's a lot of very interesting questions.
Do you have a something you want to add?
It looks like you were raising your hand, were you?
No, I was just twisting my PIN as I looked down to the questions.
Sorry, and.
Okay. There's also another question about the one academic here. The the issue is completion of a full academic year. A second year.
Phd. Student that may have started the previous August is eligible because they haven't completed more than one academic year.
So if you're in the fall semester, you've already complete. You've only completed one.
So please, once again, yeah, we do. Solicitation and contact. And jrp.org.
Oh, I'm an apple. Common application mistakes. Well, that's a very good question. Probably the way the thing is, one is not getting it in or waiting until the last minute.
Literally. I know we're pounding you on this, but please don't. These things take a lot of time they take a lot of time.
Don't waste your time and effort by waiting until the last minute to submit. Second, and I think the other thing is, people don't read whether they're eligible or what they're proposing to do is eligible.
This year we do have your allowed to be. There's a an exception about biomedically, about research.
Read the exceptions in there, because there's the thing in there for computer science, please. We are accepting research.
That is, has has a a health focus. If if it is supporting fundamental research and computer science.
So that's read. Follow the instructions. The other thing is, make sure to have, if you can, as much as possible, at least 3 letters.
It helps the reviewers it helps the reviewers and the reference writers often see things about applicants that you don't even know about yourself, because you're just a student.
And you're you know you're doing your thing. You're really great. You're outstanding.
You have no idea but a faculty number like this is the best student I have seen in the past 15 years.
They don't even know that they're incredible. And they can tell the in the reference letter why you're so incredible.
Let's see.
There's another question about money. Is it you? There's no. So this is a lot of questions about money, and how?
What is? What are we constraints? So you can't have a Grf with any other Federal fellowship.
Concurrently, if you apply to it individually. F. 31 is what Nih has, and Dseg, which is common.
DOE computer science. You cannot hold them together. You can be supported as an Ra on advisors.
Grant, or maybe if there, the institution has a traineeship, you know that's possible. But once again you should check that, and because the institution is responsible for making sure that people aren't getting ineligible support, because nobody ever wants to say well, you shouldn't have gotten this money, and you know so the institution, doesn't want to get in trouble for that.
Either. So you should check to make sure it's an it's not an individual fellowship for which you are applying, just like with Jara P.
Directly to the Federal Government for funding.
Okay, so first year, there's a very interesting question. There's a lot of people who are worried about whether first or grad students or second.
You know, there are different levels. How do they? How do the reviewers, you know, consider that because a second year graduate student has a year, they've been to grad school.
So this is a big issue and also undergrads, like, I'm competing with graduate students.
How am I supposed to do that? So once again, these are reviewers, are many of them are faculty.
They manage students, undergraduates. They have a lot of experience with students, undergraduates, graduate students, and they understand there's expectant what what you might expect a second year graduate student to be have accomplished until you'd be able to do that you would not expect from somebody who's just entering you know grad school or as a senior so this we emphasize that
over and over to our reviewers that these are different students, and as people tell us all the time, you know, they're just and undergrad.
We know, you know. Please remember that not only are the reviewers a lot of them.
The majority of them are faculty or we're faculty or work with students. Many or most of the Nsa.
Program office as well. Also faculty. And we're at academic institutions before they came to Nsf, so this is something that they're very familiar with.
We're all very familiar with.
So I know we probably can keep talking because there's definitely, as you say, a lot of interesting questions but we're getting to the very last minute of the hour.
So I wanna make sure that I think our panelists, especially Samuel and Johnon. You guys are amazing.
And I also want to encourage everyone who's on the call. If it didn't get your question answered first, please to go to the Nsf website it's very searchable.
It has a lot of good information, I agree it's sometimes difficult to read, but it's it's very incredibly informative.
And then you can follow up with email questions. If that was not sufficient and we will post.
I don't know if Wendy has any more insights, but we will definitely post the recording and make this slides available to you all.
Anything else anybody wants to add.
No, just apply. Don't, Matt? Guess you know. Have worse.
Follow next year, apply, apply. Thank you.
Thanks, everybody, and thanks to our wonderful colleagues from Jerfp, I agree with you on apply.
Bye, apply? Yes.