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<v Fowler, James E.>Ability in computing programming.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And then we call this desk.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So the team running desk.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>I'm Jim Fowler and I'm the one of the two
leads.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Dan Andresen's here as well.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>He's also helping me lead the team.
Then we have sharmista Varun and Sheikh</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>from the OAC division of size.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Sharmini also is from CCF,
which is where I'm from and we have</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Sylvia and goalie from IIS.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And Heather,
from the office of the director.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So I want to give a brief overview about
what the desk program is and what it is</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>not.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And then we'll go over some.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Specifics about applying to the program,
but this presentation won't last too long.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>We will then turn the floor over to
questions.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>But you can ask questions at any time
while I'm talking on this presentation.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>I just put your question into the chat
and we will attempt to get to that in due</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>course.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So the motivation for the desk program?</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Of course, you know,
there's been a lot of concern about</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>energy consumption,
particularly by the vast numbers of data</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>centers that are coming online.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>In 2022 is estimated that about 2% of all
of global electricity went toward to data</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>centers.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>This is expected to double.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>By the year 2026.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So quite a bit of power going towards
data centers.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Additionally,
there's been a great deal of concern</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>about carbon.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>That represents embodied energy that goes
into the manufacture of these devices.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>For servers for instance,
like the embodied carbon can be up to 50%</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>of the total carbon, that means.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>The rest of the would be from operational
use,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>but half of the carbon going into the
manufactured and manufacturing of the</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>service.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>This can be much, much higher though.
If you have energy optimized compute</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>devices.
As you can see for for example an iPhone,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>81% of the carbon emissions comes from
the production.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Use is only 18%.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And then finally,
e-waste is a growing concern.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>There's a lot of rare earth materials in
these devices.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Recovery of those would help
substantially,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>but then there's also unavoidable waste.
And that has certainly negative</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>environmental impacts.
And so the all of these issues, energy,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>carbon and e-waste all factor into.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>The sustainability, or lack thereof,
of computing.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>To to date,
this has largely been an understand</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>understudied problem.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>In body carbon, greenhouse gas emissions,
depletion of rare earth materials and</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>e-waste, all these things are known,
but we don't really have any sort of</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>comprehensive framework for addressing
these problems as they apply to computing.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>There's also trends that are going on in
the computing community that are</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>compounding.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>These problems,
many more devices design with planned</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>obsolescence.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Big data, dark silicon,
resource intensive software and then</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>applications as well.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Think AI.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Think blockchain.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So addressing all of these issues
requires a mindset change as well as new</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>metrics and new visibility into the
problem.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So we've already talked about data
centers,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>but there's also and other devices.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Heavy usage of batteries,
diesel generators, toxic coolants,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>things along those lines.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So energy efficiency alone,
which is something that we've been able</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>to address with pretty good success,
is insufficient to solve these challenges.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And that is where the desk program comes
into play.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So the overriding objective of desk is to
build a community of interdisciplinary</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>researchers.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>That are striving for disruptive
improvements in the sustainability of</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>next generation computing.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So some of the key challenges that we
expect projects funded by desk to address</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>include applying the principles of
sustainable and lifecycle science to</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>computing, defining, measuring.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And optimizing sustainability from a
computational perspective.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Pushing that Pareto optimal boundary of
performance,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>promoting design for environmental
sustainability is a top tier goal,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>not relegating it to a second or even
tertiary level concept,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>but really bringing it up to energy and
performance as a design goal of the top</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>tier.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And then we want to leverage
opportunities for sustainability across</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>the.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Continue until across the entire
computing stack,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>and we want to avoid planned obsolescence.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So sustainability projects for desk are
solicited from and across all of the size</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>disciplines.
And so we anticipate that we'll see</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>projects funded by desk that address.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>You know,
obviously things like hardware design and</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>hardware architecture.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Models and metrics for things like
greenhouse gases.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Infrastructure design,
reusability and then things that might</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>not be so.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Obvious sustainable algorithms and
workflows, languages,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>frameworks and tools,
software and interface design.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>All of these things can impact the
sustainability of computing,</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>and so we anticipate having a broad
portfolio.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Projects that address all of the size
disciplines.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>So there are some boundaries to be
cognizant of for desk the overriding idea</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>here is that sustainability is more than
just energy efficiency, so we expect.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Just projects to be transformative,
to be potentially cross disciplinary and</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>to provide possibly clean slate
approaches to improve environmental</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability at any level across the
computing continuum.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>We expect that desk projects should be
able to quantify and measure the</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>improvement to environmental
sustainability going beyond.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Energy efficiency such that we can come
up with sustainability metrics.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>That we can design too and we expect the
projects to be ambitious and forward</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>thinking.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Now having said that,
there are some ideas that are decidedly</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>out of scope for DES,
so projects that focus exclusively on</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>computing performance and or energy
efficiency.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>Those may be valuable projects,
but we fund a lot of this kind of stuff</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>in size already.</v>

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<v Fowler, James E.>And so if it's just about computing
performance.</v>

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00:08:07.077 --> 00:08:11.593
<v Fowler, James E.>Or if it's just about energy efficiency
that belongs somewhere else,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1081-1
00:08:11.593 --> 00:08:16.175
<v Fowler, James E.>not with desk projects that use computing
to advance other sectors of</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1081-2
00:08:16.175 --> 00:08:17.157
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1093-0
00:08:17.677 --> 00:08:21.721
<v Fowler, James E.>Again, a worthwhile goal,
but not something that's aligned with</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1093-1
00:08:21.721 --> 00:08:22.037
<v Fowler, James E.>desk.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1106-0
00:08:22.037 --> 00:08:27.387
<v Fowler, James E.>We think that these things are funded
elsewhere at NSF,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1106-1
00:08:27.387 --> 00:08:31.877
<v Fowler, James E.>so certainly using AI to to look at,
you know.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1126-0
00:08:32.647 --> 00:08:36.132
<v Fowler, James E.>Water resource management or something
like that might be something that would</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1126-1
00:08:36.132 --> 00:08:37.367
<v Fowler, James E.>be funded maybe over in the.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1147-0
00:08:37.477 --> 00:08:41.793
<v Fowler, James E.>Geo Directorate,
but not here with desk and then projects</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1147-1
00:08:41.793 --> 00:08:47.597
<v Fowler, James E.>that seek to advance economic or social
justice of computing as a sole focus.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1189-0
00:08:47.677 --> 00:08:51.185
<v Fowler, James E.>Again,
this is something that would be fundable,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1189-1
00:08:51.185 --> 00:08:56.411
<v Fowler, James E.>perhaps in another directorate like at
the SBE Directorate, here at NSF,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1189-2
00:08:56.411 --> 00:09:00.420
<v Fowler, James E.>but not within desk corpse.
If you are coming up with a</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1189-3
00:09:00.420 --> 00:09:02.997
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability metric that includes.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1197-0
00:09:03.727 --> 00:09:07.167
<v Fowler, James E.>Advanced economic and social justice of
computing that.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1221-0
00:09:07.597 --> 00:09:13.315
<v Fowler, James E.>That can be part of it,
but that having that as a sole focus is</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1221-1
00:09:13.315 --> 00:09:19.837
<v Fowler, James E.>not appropriate for desk OK desk is
composed of three types of projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1225-0
00:09:20.197 --> 00:09:22.197
<v Fowler, James E.>The first type, Type 1.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1232-0
00:09:22.197 --> 00:09:24.237
<v Fowler, James E.>These are small projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1243-0
00:09:24.517 --> 00:09:30.589
<v Fowler, James E.>Research activities fall within a
three-year duration and typically have</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1243-1
00:09:30.589 --> 00:09:31.837
<v Fowler, James E.>one to two Pis.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1250-0
00:09:32.647 --> 00:09:35.127
<v Fowler, James E.>And budgets run up to 600 K.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1260-0
00:09:36.477 --> 00:09:37.797
<v Fowler, James E.>Type 2 projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1302-0
00:09:37.797 --> 00:09:42.568
<v Fowler, James E.>These are large projects.
We expect these to be interdisciplinary</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1302-1
00:09:42.568 --> 00:09:48.569
<v Fowler, James E.>and or cross layer efforts and that means
that we're going to require larger teams</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1302-2
00:09:48.569 --> 00:09:52.618
<v Fowler, James E.>of Pis for this.
The budgets for the large projects can</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1302-3
00:09:52.618 --> 00:09:56.377
<v Fowler, James E.>run up to $2,000,
000 and have up to a four year D.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1314-0
00:09:57.197 --> 00:10:00.997
<v Fowler, James E.>And then there are Type 3 projects which
are workshop projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1324-0
00:10:01.807 --> 00:10:05.567
<v Fowler, James E.>And these are workshops designed to
catalyze research activities.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1338-0
00:10:06.877 --> 00:10:11.317
<v Fowler, James E.>And the budgets run up to 100K and up to
A1 year duration.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1351-0
00:10:13.127 --> 00:10:17.847
<v Fowler, James E.>So the deadline for the type one and the
Type 2 projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1383-0
00:10:19.527 --> 00:10:23.192
<v Fowler, James E.>Are they're both due on September 12th of
2025,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1383-1
00:10:23.192 --> 00:10:28.996
<v Fowler, James E.>but the Type 3 workshop projects have no
deadlines and the proposals can be</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1383-2
00:10:28.996 --> 00:10:30.447
<v Fowler, James E.>submitted any time.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1395-0
00:10:31.707 --> 00:10:38.387
<v Fowler, James E.>Now there are some intertwined Pi limits
for small projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1417-0
00:10:39.887 --> 00:10:48.967
<v Fowler, James E.>A person can be API or copi or a senior
personnel on up to two small projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1442-0
00:10:49.567 --> 00:10:53.592
<v Fowler, James E.>However,
if you are already API Co π or a senior</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1442-1
00:10:53.592 --> 00:11:00.247
<v Fowler, James E.>person on a large that's being submitted,
you can only submit one small project.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1468-0
00:11:01.477 --> 00:11:06.720
<v Fowler, James E.>Likewise for the large projects,
you can be API Co,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1468-1
00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:11.157
<v Fowler, James E.>π or senior person on up to one
submission.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1480-0
00:11:11.317 --> 00:11:14.092
<v Fowler, James E.>But if you're already on two small
submissions,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1480-1
00:11:14.092 --> 00:11:17.157
<v Fowler, James E.>then you cannot submit it all in the
large category.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1511-0
00:11:18.687 --> 00:11:22.800
<v Fowler, James E.>Now there are no Pi, Co, π,
or senior personnel limits on the</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1511-1
00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:26.848
<v Fowler, James E.>workshop proposals,
so these limits are independent of other</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1511-2
00:11:26.848 --> 00:11:29.767
<v Fowler, James E.>NSF programs,
including size core programs.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1519-0
00:11:30.117 --> 00:11:33.157
<v Fowler, James E.>To this, just looking at the desk program.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1559-0
00:11:34.567 --> 00:11:41.500
<v Fowler, James E.>And we have a lifetime limit as well,
so a person can be API Co π or a senior</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1559-1
00:11:41.500 --> 00:11:48.700
<v Fowler, James E.>personnel on up to two small awards and
up to one large award during the life of</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1559-2
00:11:48.700 --> 00:11:49.767
<v Fowler, James E.>the program.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1578-0
00:11:49.767 --> 00:11:53.991
<v Fowler, James E.>So the program as it was initially
established,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1578-1
00:11:53.991 --> 00:11:57.247
<v Fowler, James E.>ran runs for three submission cycles.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1581-0
00:11:57.247 --> 00:11:58.807
<v Fowler, James E.>And so this upcoming cycle.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1583-0
00:11:59.767 --> 00:12:00.087
<v Fowler, James E.>In September.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1598-0
00:12:00.637 --> 00:12:05.232
<v Fowler, James E.>Of 2025,
which will be for funding in fiscal year</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1598-1
00:12:05.232 --> 00:12:07.437
<v Fowler, James E.>26 as the last of these.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1628-0
00:12:08.887 --> 00:12:16.148
<v Fowler, James E.>So if you've already had two small awards
in desk in the subsequent submission</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1628-1
00:12:16.148 --> 00:12:20.192
<v Fowler, James E.>windows,
then your your ineligible to be on</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1628-2
00:12:20.192 --> 00:12:21.847
<v Fowler, James E.>additional smalls.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1632-0
00:12:21.887 --> 00:12:25.127
<v Fowler, James E.>For example,
there are no limits on the workshops.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1636-0
00:12:28.547 --> 00:12:28.867
<v Fowler, James E.>OK.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1652-0
00:12:28.867 --> 00:12:32.867
<v Fowler, James E.>So let's talk about these types of
projects a little bit more in depth.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1665-0
00:12:33.067 --> 00:12:38.667
<v Fowler, James E.>So type one small projects the deadline
as I mentioned was September 12th, 2025.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1672-0
00:12:38.747 --> 00:12:42.267
<v Fowler, James E.>We expect a fund,
maybe up to ten of these awards.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1686-0
00:12:43.687 --> 00:12:47.980
<v Fowler, James E.>Is a fairly typical NSF proposal,
in that you have a 15 page project</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1686-1
00:12:47.980 --> 00:12:48.727
<v Fowler, James E.>description.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1710-0
00:12:50.447 --> 00:12:56.871
<v Fowler, James E.>And we expect that small projects will
either be standalone projects or they may</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1710-1
00:12:56.871 --> 00:12:59.647
<v Fowler, James E.>serve as a preliminary exploration.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1734-0
00:13:00.117 --> 00:13:07.244
<v Fowler, James E.>For a subsequent Type 2 project.
So if you are submitting a small project</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1734-1
00:13:07.244 --> 00:13:13.022
<v Fowler, James E.>and you do intend to seek subsequent
large project funding,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1734-2
00:13:13.022 --> 00:13:15.237
<v Fowler, James E.>then one you should be.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1760-0
00:13:16.927 --> 00:13:21.021
<v Fowler, James E.>Writing your proposal such that the Type
1 project is self-contained,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1760-1
00:13:21.021 --> 00:13:23.887
<v Fowler, James E.>so everything is in it for the reviewers
to see.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1778-0
00:13:23.927 --> 00:13:28.457
<v Fowler, James E.>You need to clearly articulate how it
prepares for research to be done in the</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1778-1
00:13:28.457 --> 00:13:29.967
<v Fowler, James E.>subsequent Type 2 project.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1790-0
00:13:31.637 --> 00:13:36.557
<v Fowler, James E.>But you also need to present the broad
vision for the entire project duration.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1818-0
00:13:36.557 --> 00:13:40.672
<v Fowler, James E.>So you need to talk about what you're
going to do for the type one,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1818-1
00:13:40.672 --> 00:13:45.331
<v Fowler, James E.>and then a little bit about what the
vision is for expanding into the Type 2</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1818-2
00:13:45.331 --> 00:13:45.997
<v Fowler, James E.>eventually.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1827-0
00:13:48.617 --> 00:13:51.457
<v Fowler, James E.>Type 2 large projects have the same
deadline.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1838-0
00:13:52.927 --> 00:13:56.367
<v Fowler, James E.>We expect to be able to fund up to two of
these.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1866-0
00:13:58.047 --> 00:14:02.919
<v Fowler, James E.>Out of this upcoming submission cycle,
there's a slightly longer project</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1866-1
00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:07.324
<v Fowler, James E.>description. At 20 pages,
you are required to submit a management</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1866-2
00:14:07.324 --> 00:14:10.127
<v Fowler, James E.>of coordination plan of up to three pages.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1885-0
00:14:11.967 --> 00:14:18.447
<v Fowler, James E.>And then realize that the award of a type
one small project is not a prerequisite.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1930-0
00:14:18.757 --> 00:14:25.981
<v Fowler, James E.>For seeking a Type 2 large funding so you
can have a Type 2 large project that is</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1930-1
00:14:25.981 --> 00:14:31.532
<v Fowler, James E.>supported by a prior type,
one small or even some other award.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1930-2
00:14:31.532 --> 00:14:35.760
<v Fowler, James E.>Say something that you got earlier
through CNS.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1930-3
00:14:35.760 --> 00:14:41.487
<v Fowler, James E.>Or perhaps you got an award in the design
for sustainability in.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1935-0
00:14:41.487 --> 00:14:42.437
<v Fowler, James E.>Computing dear colleague.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1937-0
00:14:42.437 --> 00:14:43.637
<v Fowler, James E.>Letter that was issued.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1944-0
00:14:44.527 --> 00:14:47.767
<v Fowler, James E.>Earlier, that's document 22-060.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1973-0
00:14:49.797 --> 00:14:54.456
<v Fowler, James E.>So if this is the case,
then you want to clearly talk about how</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1973-1
00:14:54.456 --> 00:14:59.478
<v Fowler, James E.>the Type 2 research is novel,
but also builds upon the previous type</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1973-2
00:14:59.478 --> 00:15:02.317
<v Fowler, James E.>one or the previous equivalent funding.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1992-0
00:15:03.807 --> 00:15:08.630
<v Fowler, James E.>So it is possible for you to have a
concurrent type,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/1992-1
00:15:08.630 --> 00:15:11.087
<v Fowler, James E.>one small or a DCL funding.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2005-0
00:15:12.687 --> 00:15:17.407
<v Fowler, James E.>With a Type 2 large. However,
if you are planning to do a Type 1.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2014-0
00:15:18.077 --> 00:15:22.717
<v Fowler, James E.>With a subsequent Type 2 coupling between.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2022-0
00:15:24.167 --> 00:15:26.327
<v Fowler, James E.>Two projects, a small and then a large.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2039-0
00:15:27.847 --> 00:15:31.367
<v Fowler, James E.>You should not seek funding for both
simultaneously in the same round.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2058-0
00:15:31.367 --> 00:15:36.893
<v Fowler, James E.>You should seek funding for the small 1st
and then if you're successful then</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2058-1
00:15:36.893 --> 00:15:41.127
<v Fowler, James E.>continue on at a subsequent submission
for a Type 2 large.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2061-0
00:15:43.407 --> 00:15:43.767
<v Fowler, James E.>OK.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2074-0
00:15:43.767 --> 00:15:47.911
<v Fowler, James E.>So there are some additional review
criteria associated with type one and</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2074-1
00:15:47.911 --> 00:15:48.807
<v Fowler, James E.>Type 2 projects.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2112-0
00:15:50.327 --> 00:15:55.417
<v Fowler, James E.>One is that we ask the reviewers to
comment upon whether relevant notions of</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2112-1
00:15:55.417 --> 00:15:59.714
<v Fowler, James E.>environmental sustainability are
addressed within your proposal.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2112-2
00:15:59.714 --> 00:16:02.887
<v Fowler, James E.>For instance,
project should not address energy</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2112-3
00:16:02.887 --> 00:16:04.407
<v Fowler, James E.>efficiency exclusively.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2130-0
00:16:04.407 --> 00:16:08.657
<v Fowler, James E.>There should be other components to
sustainability beyond energy efficiency</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2130-1
00:16:08.657 --> 00:16:10.167
<v Fowler, James E.>addressed in your proposal.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2136-0
00:16:10.447 --> 00:16:13.927
<v Fowler, James E.>We ask the reviewers how the
sustainability vision.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2158-0
00:16:14.197 --> 00:16:20.396
<v Fowler, James E.>And will be attained as well as evaluated
for and from both theoretical and</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2158-1
00:16:20.396 --> 00:16:22.517
<v Fowler, James E.>experimental perspectives.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2185-0
00:16:22.957 --> 00:16:28.287
<v Fowler, James E.>So the project should be impactful for
environmental sustainability of computing,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2185-1
00:16:28.287 --> 00:16:33.487
<v Fowler, James E.>and the proposal should clearly describe
how this will be achieved through both</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2185-2
00:16:33.487 --> 00:16:34.917
<v Fowler, James E.>theory and experiment.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2202-0
00:16:36.447 --> 00:16:41.607
<v Fowler, James E.>And then a big big one is the definition
of sustainability metrics.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2206-0
00:16:41.607 --> 00:16:43.647
<v Fowler, James E.>We asked the reviewers to assess.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2245-0
00:16:44.237 --> 00:16:50.220
<v Fowler, James E.>What metrics you propose and whether they
are sufficient to reach beyond the</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2245-1
00:16:50.220 --> 00:16:55.891
<v Fowler, James E.>performance and energy efficiency,
whether they can successfully capture</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2245-2
00:16:55.891 --> 00:17:02.029
<v Fowler, James E.>impact on environmental sustainability
and also their ability to be quantified</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2245-3
00:17:02.029 --> 00:17:03.117
<v Fowler, James E.>and evaluated?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2267-0
00:17:05.007 --> 00:17:10.562
<v Fowler, James E.>So DES project should be able to define
reasonable environmental metrics on, say,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2267-1
00:17:10.562 --> 00:17:12.527
<v Fowler, James E.>greenhouse gases, wastewater.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2291-0
00:17:13.157 --> 00:17:16.952
<v Fowler, James E.>Volatile organic compounds, e-waste,
et cetera.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2291-1
00:17:16.952 --> 00:17:22.171
<v Fowler, James E.>And then use them to quantify and
evaluate the projects impact on</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2291-2
00:17:22.171 --> 00:17:23.357
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2305-0
00:17:25.807 --> 00:17:29.751
<v Fowler, James E.>Now moving on to the Type 3 workshops,
there's no doubt in line.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2305-1
00:17:29.751 --> 00:17:31.207
<v Fowler, James E.>You can submit any time.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2325-0
00:17:32.647 --> 00:17:37.204
<v Fowler, James E.>So we expect that there'll be more
workshops funded earlier in the program</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2325-1
00:17:37.204 --> 00:17:42.065
<v Fowler, James E.>to prepare researchers for submitting
subsequent type one and Type 2 proposals,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2325-2
00:17:42.065 --> 00:17:42.247
<v Fowler, James E.>so.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2343-0
00:17:44.367 --> 00:17:47.307
<v Fowler, James E.>We're we're kind of getting past that
right now,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2343-1
00:17:47.307 --> 00:17:51.327
<v Fowler, James E.>but we expect up to five awards for each
of the funding deadlines.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2345-0
00:17:53.607 --> 00:17:55.287
<v Fowler, James E.>Or funding.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2351-0
00:17:55.637 --> 00:17:56.837
<v Fowler, James E.>Cycles, I should say.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2357-0
00:17:57.197 --> 00:18:00.357
<v Fowler, James E.>There's a shorter project description up
to 8 pages.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2380-0
00:18:01.807 --> 00:18:06.893
<v Fowler, James E.>And you do need to follow what's in Pap G
chapter 2F and or concerning the guidance</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2380-1
00:18:06.893 --> 00:18:08.407
<v Fowler, James E.>for conference proposals.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2397-0
00:18:08.407 --> 00:18:13.393
<v Fowler, James E.>So it's a little bit different than,
you know, a type one or Type 2 proposal,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2397-1
00:18:13.393 --> 00:18:15.247
<v Fowler, James E.>which are research proposals.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2413-0
00:18:15.527 --> 00:18:20.739
<v Fowler, James E.>So we hope that Type 3 workshops will
catalyze researchers in the areas within</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2413-1
00:18:20.739 --> 00:18:21.927
<v Fowler, James E.>the scope of desk.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2415-0
00:18:22.807 --> 00:18:24.687
<v Fowler, James E.>The workshops could encourage exploration.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2435-0
00:18:25.237 --> 00:18:31.862
<v Fowler, James E.>In a particular size topic area,
but do not need to directly relate to a</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2435-1
00:18:31.862 --> 00:18:33.677
<v Fowler, James E.>particular proposal.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2465-0
00:18:35.207 --> 00:18:37.813
<v Fowler, James E.>On the other hand,
it is envisioned that the Pisa,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2465-1
00:18:37.813 --> 00:18:40.828
<v Fowler, James E.>the Tinder workshop,
could eventually form teams to submit</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2465-2
00:18:40.828 --> 00:18:43.127
<v Fowler, James E.>collaborative type one and Type 2
proposals.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2478-0
00:18:46.477 --> 00:18:49.637
<v Fowler, James E.>So there are some additional review
criteria for the Type 3 workshop.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2495-0
00:18:51.167 --> 00:18:56.401
<v Fowler, James E.>Proposals the reviewers will be asked
about the notions of environmental</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2495-1
00:18:56.401 --> 00:18:58.767
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability that are proposed.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2515-0
00:19:00.367 --> 00:19:04.771
<v Fowler, James E.>By your workshop and the workshop must
articulate the relevance of the topic</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2515-1
00:19:04.771 --> 00:19:06.887
<v Fowler, James E.>area to environmental sustainability.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2532-0
00:19:07.367 --> 00:19:12.031
<v Fowler, James E.>The reviewers are also asked about the
vision that is incorporated in your</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2532-1
00:19:12.031 --> 00:19:15.327
<v Fowler, James E.>proposal for advancing environmental
sustainability.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2584-0
00:19:16.037 --> 00:19:19.675
<v Fowler, James E.>From a theoretical as well as
experimental perspective,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2584-1
00:19:19.675 --> 00:19:24.872
<v Fowler, James E.>so the workshop can promote discussion
about how a particular field can advance</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2584-2
00:19:24.872 --> 00:19:28.120
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability,
and it can include discussions of</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2584-3
00:19:28.120 --> 00:19:31.628
<v Fowler, James E.>strategies,
both conceptually and potentially in some</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2584-4
00:19:31.628 --> 00:19:33.837
<v Fowler, James E.>detail related to experimentation.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2608-0
00:19:35.327 --> 00:19:38.730
<v Fowler, James E.>And then finally,
the reviewers assess the potential of the</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2608-1
00:19:38.730 --> 00:19:42.927
<v Fowler, James E.>workshop for seeding new metrics,
new approaches, and new research ideas.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2611-0
00:19:44.607 --> 00:19:45.807
<v Fowler, James E.>Within a discipline.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2649-0
00:19:46.477 --> 00:19:49.972
<v Fowler, James E.>Of size.
So workshops are a good place to discuss</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2649-1
00:19:49.972 --> 00:19:54.726
<v Fowler, James E.>and then settle on what are the
appropriate metrics related to that</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2649-2
00:19:54.726 --> 00:20:00.388
<v Fowler, James E.>discipline and then how to quantify the
impact of those metrics on environmental</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2649-3
00:20:00.388 --> 00:20:01.437
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainability?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2698-0
00:20:05.667 --> 00:20:12.041
<v Fowler, James E.>So some general best practices as these
actually are pretty generic and applied</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2698-1
00:20:12.041 --> 00:20:18.655
<v Fowler, James E.>to other programs than just simply desk.
But for desk you want to attend webinars,</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2698-2
00:20:18.655 --> 00:20:22.958
<v Fowler, James E.>town halls and office hours when those
are available.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2698-3
00:20:22.958 --> 00:20:25.667
<v Fowler, James E.>So you're here at the webinar now.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2710-0
00:20:25.737 --> 00:20:30.657
<v Fowler, James E.>We're also gonna uh, have, uh,
scheduled a town hall in July.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2716-0
00:20:30.697 --> 00:20:34.297
<v Fowler, James E.>That might be a good place to ask follow
up questions.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2743-0
00:20:35.787 --> 00:20:39.581
<v Fowler, James E.>You can, though,
send questions at any time to the desk at</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2743-1
00:20:39.581 --> 00:20:43.826
<v Fowler, James E.>nsf.gov e-mail address,
and one of us will get back with you with</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2743-2
00:20:43.826 --> 00:20:45.627
<v Fowler, James E.>an answer as soon as we can.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2754-0
00:20:47.627 --> 00:20:52.347
<v Fowler, James E.>As a general word of advice,
read the solicitation very very closely.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2773-0
00:20:53.147 --> 00:20:57.954
<v Fowler, James E.>Ensure that your submission complies with
all of the submission rules that are</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2773-1
00:20:57.954 --> 00:20:58.867
<v Fowler, James E.>outlined there.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2781-0
00:20:59.187 --> 00:21:02.667
<v Fowler, James E.>They're also in the solicitation,
may be some useful examples.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2815-0
00:21:04.107 --> 00:21:10.173
<v Fowler, James E.>Relevant to the topical area of interest
that you are pursuing and then you can</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2815-1
00:21:10.173 --> 00:21:16.390
<v Fowler, James E.>always contact one of us at NSF with A1
page summary before submission and we can</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2815-2
00:21:16.390 --> 00:21:19.347
<v Fowler, James E.>offer you some some guidance from that.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2822-0
00:21:21.827 --> 00:21:23.947
<v Fowler, James E.>So this brings us to the.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2827-0
00:21:24.217 --> 00:21:25.737
<v Fowler, James E.>The end of the presentation.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2834-0
00:21:26.927 --> 00:21:29.807
<v Fowler, James E.>I'll stop here in just a second and.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2846-0
00:21:32.857 --> 00:21:37.297
<v Fowler, James E.>Address some questions that are proposed
in the chat.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2888-0
00:21:39.017 --> 00:21:42.419
<v Fowler, James E.>But overall,
desk is designed to make computing more</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2888-1
00:21:42.419 --> 00:21:47.746
<v Fowler, James E.>sustainable with respect to a broad range
of environmental issues broader than has</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2888-2
00:21:47.746 --> 00:21:52.752
<v Fowler, James E.>been considered in the in the past.
We also want to grow an interdisciplinary</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2888-3
00:21:52.752 --> 00:21:55.897
<v Fowler, James E.>community of researchers with long term
impacts.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2936-0
00:21:56.327 --> 00:22:02.326
<v Fowler, James E.>In this area and so we are seeking your
project ideas and submissions to address</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2936-1
00:22:02.326 --> 00:22:07.215
<v Fowler, James E.>these key challenges. Again,
you can submit A1 pager to desk@nsf.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2936-2
00:22:07.215 --> 00:22:13.066
<v Fowler, James E.>gov or to one of the program directors
directly for feedback on suitability of</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2936-3
00:22:13.066 --> 00:22:13.807
<v Fowler, James E.>your idea.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2942-0
00:22:15.217 --> 00:22:16.737
<v Fowler, James E.>And with that, I will stop sharing.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2948-0
00:22:18.497 --> 00:22:19.897
<v Fowler, James E.>So I can see what's going on.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2962-0
00:22:21.777 --> 00:22:27.497
<v Fowler, James E.>And we can open the floor for any
questions that anybody might have.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2968-0
00:22:27.537 --> 00:22:30.057
<v Fowler, James E.>Do we have any that have come up in the
chat?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2974-0
00:22:30.167 --> 00:22:33.327
<v Fowler, James E.>Don't think so. No, not yet.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2977-0
00:22:39.747 --> 00:22:40.027
<v Fowler, James E.>OK.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2986-0
00:22:40.027 --> 00:22:42.747
<v Fowler, James E.>So how has raised his hand?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/2994-0
00:22:42.987 --> 00:22:46.747
<v Fowler, James E.>Is it possible for them to speak Edgar or
they gonna?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3002-0
00:22:47.427 --> 00:22:49.947
<v Fowler, James E.>Are they restricted to being in the chat?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3007-0
00:22:49.407 --> 00:22:52.207
<v Huertas, Edgar J>Yeah, if you guys, if you guys want me to,
I can open it.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3010-0
00:22:52.207 --> 00:22:53.487
<v Huertas, Edgar J>I can allow him to speak.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3013-0
00:22:54.537 --> 00:22:55.097
<v Fowler, James E.>Yeah. Why?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3020-0
00:22:55.097 --> 00:22:56.337
<v Fowler, James E.>Why don't you go ahead and do that?</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3018-0
00:22:55.307 --> 00:22:55.467
<v Huertas, Edgar J>OK.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3022-0
00:22:56.697 --> 00:22:57.337
<v Huertas, Edgar J>OK.</v>

166c55ed-5d20-40f4-8c25-1083c75e5193/3024-0
00:22:57.337 --> 00:22:58.057
<v Huertas, Edgar J>Wait one second.</v>